Posts by Brokeback Watchtower

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Huge story unfolding at Warwick

by Crazyguy in

its been mentioned before that warwick is a toxic dump and now the jw's are suing a former owner for compensation.

well this is huge on so many levels.

one they new it was contaminated back a few years ago so why move your headquarters there?

Brokeback Watchtower

I guess this piece of property had the Governing Body's name all over it and was just waiting all these year for someone dumb enough and desperate like them to buy it. I hope they enjoy their new home with all carcinogens just waiting to make friends with them.

I think that tours to see the place will be kind of spars once all the friends/JWs spread the word around that this was a contaminated site that was supposedly cleaned up just like the end of the world is coming real soon like any minute now. I wouldn't suggest that any pregnant or nursing mother take a visit seeing that PCB causes birth defects and what not.

I think Jehovah might get a little miffed seeing how his Faithful and not so discreet slave just blew a wad of dough due to lack of faithfulness with Jehovah's assets and indiscretion/undiscreetfulness when it come to buying property for him to park his Chariot.

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You Tube Video Ex-Betheliite Ex-Walkill Worker Layed Off!

by cha ching in

i am not sure if this guy is really from bethel, or walkill, but if he is....this poor guy really tells it like it is from the heart.

he was surprised.. at the 'oh so fast, pack your bags, get your stuff outta here' layoff !.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk1xh1egjcu

Brokeback Watchtower

A lot of companies when they lay off someone for what ever reason escort them to a meeting when they are given the news that they no longer have a job and then escort them to get their belongings so as not to have a negative impact on the other workers, in effect they get them to leave as quietly as possible. I think the WT corporation may not have been able to convict him of any wrong doing but may have herd some hear say about him that caused them to get rid of him fast without any notice(maybe just could have been a wrong comment to someone that ran to some bethel overseer to squeal on him) after all I think they are kind of spooked about any type of bad attitude developing among the rank and file slave labor so even hear say without due process of a kangaroo court may have been seen to be their best alternative.

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Is Watchtower imploding? 10 reasons why the end could be nigh

by WildeLover in

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/is-watchtower-imploding-10-reasons-why-the-end-could-be-nigh.

i dont know how to hyperlink the link above,.

it's a link to an article by cedars on the possibility of the wt imploding?.

Brokeback Watchtower

I think it is a very real possibility that these demented delusional fools called the illustrious Governing Body aka Faithful and Demented Slave may be driving Jehovah's Chariot off a financial cliff of bankruptcy.

Hey they are in a delusional state and banking on wishful thinking to stabilize and direct this behemoth to financial solvency, buying property that has been contaminated by PCB and other carcinogens and moving Headquarter to live on it is just one example of how stupid they are and that is just one example of which there are many more. I don't think they are going to make it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNiM2urAq9A

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How much damage has internet done against the The Watchtower Society ?

by opusdei1972 in

in the beginning of internet the society was worried about the information published exposing its falsehood.

so, i wonder how many people lost the society on account of forums and web sites like this.

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Brokeback Watchtower

1996 or 97 I was on the beginning of internet and I typed in Jehovah, Jehovah Witness, and related words in the search engines that were availible at the time and was astounded at the results it took me until 2001 before I was full out. It all happened because of the internet.

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News from Warwick

by Sour Grapes in

jw
friends

warwick update .

safety

safety is a 'culture'!

Brokeback Watchtower

With all the PCB contamination at the construction site I wouldn't want to work there. I hope no pregnant mother were working there.

http://www.recordonline.com/article/20150608/NEWS/150609481/101008

WARWICK - The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is suing International Nickel and several of its affiliates, which it accuses of contaminating land where the religious group is now building its massive 1.6 million-square-foot world headquarters.
The 252-acre property on Kings Drive was previously owned by International Nickel, which operated a research and development site and a foundry there between the mid-1960s and mid-1980s. Watchtower, better known as Jehovah’s Witnesses, purchased the property in 2009.
In the lawsuit, filed in federal court in New York's Southern District, Watchtower says International Nickel operated a wastewater treatment plant at the site to handle effluent, and also owned underground tanks to store fuel and other hazardous material.
Watchtower claims that International Nickel discharged petroleum, including oils containing polychlorinated byphenyls - or PCBs - into the wastewater treatment plant, and into the soil and groundwater, thereby contaminating the environment at the property. PCBs, which are probable human carcinogens, according to the Environmental Protection Agency, were banned in the United States in 1979.
Watchtower is in the process of building offices, apartments to house 1,000 adults, a cafeteria, a vehicle-maintenance building, an infirmary and a parking garage in Warwick. Construction is expected to be completed by the end of 2016.
Watchtower’s lawsuit says International Nickel failed to clean up the environmental problems it created during decades in Warwick. The suit also names International Nickel’s parent company, Vale Americas Inc., and its affiliates, including Vale Canada Limited, Precision Castparts Corp., and Special Metals Corporation.
Watchtower could not immediately be reached for comment. A spokesman for Vale said the company hadn’t been served yet and therefore had no comment.
It wasn’t clear when Watchtower discovered the contamination. The suit says Watchtower contacted the state Department of Environmental Conservation about the pollution in 2012 and '13, and has been cleaning the property under the direction of the DEC.
Watchtower is seeking unspecified reimbursement for the cost it has incurred in the cleanup and remediation. It is also seeking damages, restitution and attorney fees

http://www.clearwater.org/news/pcbhealth.html

Acute toxic effects.
People exposed directly to high levels of PCBs, either via the skin, by consumption, or in the air, have experienced irritation of the nose and lungs, skin irritations such as severe acne (chloracne) and rashes, and eye problems. [3]
PCBs cause developmental effects.
Women exposed to PCBs before or during pregnancy can give birth to children with significant neurological and motor control problems, including lowered IQ and poor short-term memory.
A group of children in Michigan whose mothers had been exposed to PCBs were found to have decreased birth weight and head size, lowered performance on standardized memory, psychomotor and behavioral tests, and lowered IQ. These effects lasted through at least 7 years. [4] A group of women occupationally exposed to PCBs in upstate New York had shorter pregnancies and gave birth to children with lower birth weight. [5]Another study, of the chidren of women who ate contaminated Lake Ontario fish, found significant performance impairments on a standardized behavioral assessment test. [6]
Exposure of one form of PCB to rats resulted in retarded growth, delayed puberty, decreased sperm counts, and genital malformations. [7] In other studies, exposure of PCBs to rats in utero led to behavioral and psychomotor effects that lasted into adulthood. [8]
PCBs disrupt hormone function.
PCBs with only a few chlorine atoms can mimic the body´s natural hormones, especially estrogen. Women who consumed PCB-contaminated fish from Lake Ontario were found to have shortened menstrual cycles. [9]PCBs are also thought to play a role in reduced sperm counts, altered sex organs, premature puberty, and changed sex ratios of children. More highly-chlorinated PCBs (with more chlorine atoms) act like dioxins in altering the metabolism of sex steroids in the body, changing the normal levels of estrogens and testosterone. [11] PCBs tend to change in the body and in the environment from more highly-chlorinated to lower-chlorinated forms, increasing their estrogenic effects.
Immune system and thyroid effects.
In a study of adolescents Mohawk males in New York State, PCBs were shown to upset the balance of thyroid hormones, which may affect growth as well as intellectual and behavioral development. [12]
Like dioxin, PCBs bind to receptors that control immune system function, disturbing the amounts of some immune system elements like lymphocytes and T cells. [13]
In a study of Dutch children, PCB levels were tied to an increased prevalence of ear infections and chickenpox and with lowered immune system function, and thus greater susceptibility to disease. [14]
Eating fish is the major route of exposure to PCBs.
The most common route of exposure to PCBs is from eating contaminated fish. The EPA estimates an increased cancer risk as high as 1 in 2500 for people eating certain species of fish from the Hudson River&em; thousand times higher than the EPA´s goal for protection. [15]
Air near a contaminated site may also be polluted by PCBs. By one estimate, residents of the Hudson Valley may inhale as many PCBs as they would get by eating one contaminated fish per year. [16] Although small amounts of PCBs can enter the body from swimming in highly contaminated water, this is unlikely to be significant except in the most extreme cases.
Municipalities that use the Hudson River as a drinking water source carefully monitor the water for PCBs, and there are no detectable levels in the water supplies. [17]
PCBs accumulate in the body and in the ecosystem.
Once PCBs enter a person´s (or animal´s) body, they tend to be absorbed into fat tissue and remain there.
Unlike water-soluble chemicals, they are not excreted, so the body accumulates PCBs over years. This means that PCBs also accumulate via the food chain: a small fish may absorb PCBs in water or by eating plankton, and these PCBs are stored in its body fat. When a larger fish eats the small fish, it also eats and absorbs all the PCBs that have built up in the small fish. In this way, larger fish and animals can build up a highly concentrated store of PCBs. Some types of PCBs may degrade into nontoxic form while they are stored in the body, but this process can take many years.
In the same way, PCBs accumulate in women and pass on to their infants through breast milk. This accumulation means that nursing infants may ingest PCB levels much higher than the levels in fish and other foods consumed by their mothers. [18]
PCBs have been found all over the world, including significant amounts in the Arctic and Antarctic, far from any sources. In fact, several studies have found very high levels of PCBs in the blood and breast milk of Inuit women. [19] It is thought that PCBs spread through the air, after evaporating from contaminated water and sediments, as well as through the water.

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Huge story unfolding at Warwick

by Crazyguy in

its been mentioned before that warwick is a toxic dump and now the jw's are suing a former owner for compensation.

well this is huge on so many levels.

one they new it was contaminated back a few years ago so why move your headquarters there?

Brokeback Watchtower

I sure hope the GB discusses how they got deceived by the Nickle Company into buying a chemical dump in one of their monthly broadcast. As Forest Gump would say "stupid is as stupid does"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Komi7wnAw

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New letter, re: Fully Utilizing Kingdom Hall Auditoriums

by suavojr in

jw
friends

let the merging begin!!!.

to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.

re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.

Brokeback Watchtower

Boy these guys on the GB who make sure these letters have the right spin are doing their darndest to not call a spade a spade. I gota give them kudos for their attempts.

Get ready for some big sell off and lots of disgruntled JWs searching the internet for answers who now spend more time on the web instead of traveling 20+ miles because their local hall was sold to be more efficient(pay for child molestation lawsuits).

People can only be so dumb.

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You Tube Video Ex-Betheliite Ex-Walkill Worker Layed Off!

by cha ching in

i am not sure if this guy is really from bethel, or walkill, but if he is....this poor guy really tells it like it is from the heart.

he was surprised.. at the 'oh so fast, pack your bags, get your stuff outta here' layoff !.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk1xh1egjcu

Brokeback Watchtower

I'm thinking a class action lawsuit for all the laid off Bethelite, COs, DOs, and other that have given the Corporation services for a slave labor agreement and thrown to the curb to fend for themselves penniless and without a residence.

I think this guy and many more like him have a case. The real trouble is is getting in touch with these person and forming some type of organized mass to fight this cruel treatment in the courts which is what the Watchtower is banking on so as to get away with their dirty work.

Thank God this guy is so young and he can start his life over in a better direction. I really pity those that are old and have given so much that have been thrown to the curb.

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Huge story unfolding at Warwick

by Crazyguy in

its been mentioned before that warwick is a toxic dump and now the jw's are suing a former owner for compensation.

well this is huge on so many levels.

one they new it was contaminated back a few years ago so why move your headquarters there?

Brokeback Watchtower

Vid,

You can betcha your sweet bippy on that and take it to the bank. In desperation people in a fantasy world will do real weird shit that defies normal logic. A good psychologist would have a field day trying to anticipate the next move in utter stupidity as these old farts grapple with reality cashing in upon them.

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Huge story unfolding at Warwick

by Crazyguy in

its been mentioned before that warwick is a toxic dump and now the jw's are suing a former owner for compensation.

well this is huge on so many levels.

one they new it was contaminated back a few years ago so why move your headquarters there?

Brokeback Watchtower

Watchtower PCB contamination:

http://www.clearwater.org/news/pcbhealth.html

PCBs are a probable human carcinogen.
The International Agency for Research on Cancer and the Environmental Protection Agency classify PCBs as a probable human carcinogen. The National Toxicology Program has concluded that PCBs are reasonably likely to cause cancer in humans. The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health has determined that PCBs are a potential occupational carcinogen.
Studies of PCBs in humans have found increased rates of melanomas, liver cancer, gall bladder cancer, biliary tract cancer, gastrointestinal tract cancer, and brain cancer, [1] and may be linked to breast cancer. PCBs are known to cause a variety of types of cancer in rats, mice, and other study animals. [2]
EPA´s regulations on cancer-causing chemicals use the term `probable´ when a chemical is known to cause cancer in animals and where there is evidence that suggests that it causes cancer in humans but which is not conclusive. Because you can´t feed chemicals to humans to see how they respond, it is much more difficult to demonstrate carcinogenicity in humans than in animals. Instead, studies are undertaken of groups who have been exposed to a chemical, and if they suffer from more cancers than would be expected at normal levels, this may indicate that the chemical was a carcinogen. However, there are many difficulties doing these studies: small numbers of people known to be exposed to a chemical; the fact that people suffer from many cancers without any chemical exposure; the fact that in some cases these people were exposed to a number of other chemicals; and the need to demonstrate high cancer rates that cannot be random in order to draw conclusions. Thus the term `probable´ reflects the limited nature of the studies, and it is rare that a carcinogen is so effective that it can be called a `known´ human carcinogen.
The fact that PCBs are called a `probable´ carcinogen should not be taken as a sign that they are benign.
Acute toxic effects.
People exposed directly to high levels of PCBs, either via the skin, by consumption, or in the air, have experienced irritation of the nose and lungs, skin irritations such as severe acne (chloracne) and rashes, and eye problems. [3]
PCBs cause developmental effects.
Women exposed to PCBs before or during pregnancy can give birth to children with significant neurological and motor control problems, including lowered IQ and poor short-term memory.
A group of children in Michigan whose mothers had been exposed to PCBs were found to have decreased birth weight and head size, lowered performance on standardized memory, psychomotor and behavioral tests, and lowered IQ. These effects lasted through at least 7 years. [4] A group of women occupationally exposed to PCBs in upstate New York had shorter pregnancies and gave birth to children with lower birth weight. [5]Another study, of the chidren of women who ate contaminated Lake Ontario fish, found significant performance impairments on a standardized behavioral assessment test. [6]
Exposure of one form of PCB to rats resulted in retarded growth, delayed puberty, decreased sperm counts, and genital malformations. [7] In other studies, exposure of PCBs to rats in utero led to behavioral and psychomotor effects that lasted into adulthood. [8]
PCBs disrupt hormone function.
PCBs with only a few chlorine atoms can mimic the body´s natural hormones, especially estrogen. Women who consumed PCB-contaminated fish from Lake Ontario were found to have shortened menstrual cycles. [9]PCBs are also thought to play a role in reduced sperm counts, altered sex organs, premature puberty, and changed sex ratios of children. More highly-chlorinated PCBs (with more chlorine atoms) act like dioxins in altering the metabolism of sex steroids in the body, changing the normal levels of estrogens and testosterone. [11] PCBs tend to change in the body and in the environment from more highly-chlorinated to lower-chlorinated forms, increasing their estrogenic effects.
Immune system and thyroid effects.
In a study of adolescents Mohawk males in New York State, PCBs were shown to upset the balance of thyroid hormones, which may affect growth as well as intellectual and behavioral development. [12]
Like dioxin, PCBs bind to receptors that control immune system function, disturbing the amounts of some immune system elements like lymphocytes and T cells. [13]
In a study of Dutch children, PCB levels were tied to an increased prevalence of ear infections and chickenpox and with lowered immune system function, and thus greater susceptibility to disease. [14]

Why are PCBs called a `probable´ carcinogen?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polychlorinated_biphenyl

A polychlorinated biphenyl (PCB; CAS number 1336-36-3 ) is a synthetic organic chemical compound of chlorine attached tobiphenyl, which is a molecule composed of two benzene rings. There are 209 configurations of organochlorides with 1 to 10 chlorine atoms. The chemical formula for a PCB is C12H10−xClx. 130 of the different PCB arrangements and orientations are used commercially.[1]
Polychlorinated biphenyls were widely used as dielectric and coolant fluids, this means that they reduce the chance of fires occurring in electrical fields in such a manner that is safe for electricians to work with. For example in electrical apparatus, cutting fluids for machining operations, carbon paper and in heat transfer fluids.[2] Due to PCBs' environmental toxicity and classification as a persistent organic pollutant, PCB production was banned by the United States Congress in 1979 and by the Stockholm Convention on Persistent Organic Pollutants in 2001.[3] According to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), PCBs cause cancer in animals and are probable human carcinogens.[4]
Concerns about the toxicity of PCBs are largely based on compounds within this group that share a structural similarity and toxicmode of action with dioxin. Toxic effects such as endocrine disruption and neurotoxicity are also associated with other compounds within the group. The maximum allowable contaminant level in drinking water in the United States is set at zero, but due to water treatment technologies, a level of 0.5 parts per billion is the de facto level.[5]